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- - Layout Team Meeting Notes
-page_name: thursday-june-4-2015
-title: 'Thursday, June 4, 2015: Mid-Q2 OKR Check-in'
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-Attendees: eae, cbiesinger, dsinclair, jchaffraix, nduca, skobes, szager
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-Q2 OKRs: <https://www.chromium.org/blink/layout-team/okrs/2015q2> (updated
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-with latest status, as is overview at team landing page
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-<https://www.chromium.org/blink/layout-team/>)
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-Q2 Mid-quarter check-in
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-&lt;eae&gt; Good morning/day/afternoon everyone. We're half way through the
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-quarter so I figured a check-in was in order to see where we
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-stand.
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-&lt;eae&gt; Let's go through our list of key-results and see whether we're on
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-track to achieve them by the end of the quarter.
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-\[ Have a report characterizing layout performance for all layout \]
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-\[ scenarios \]
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-&lt;eae&gt; Ben isn't here this morning, I'll follow up with him offline.
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-\[ Have design document for grand node measure refactoring \]
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-&lt;jchaffraix&gt; So the grand node refactoring has been superseded by Moose.
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-Moose has some design to it but not a finished design doc.
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-&lt;jchaffraix&gt; I don't really know how we want to scope that. Or if we
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-should just ignore it.
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-&lt;eae&gt; I think it's fair to say that the grand refactoring has been
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-superseded by Moose. At the same time the scope has also increased
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-dramatically.
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-&lt;jchaffraix&gt; We have early design ideas for Moose. Need to split it up
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-into concrete proposals and sync up with esprehn and ojan. They took
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-over the project when I went of vacation and ran with it, need to
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-reclaim it and come up with a plan.
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-&lt;eae&gt; The first phase of the moose work, to create an API, is
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-relatively well defined, uncontroversial and limited in scope.
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-&lt;jchaffraix&gt; The whole idea behind doing the API first is to avoid the
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-hard questions about differences of opinion relating to the strategy.
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-&lt;eae&gt; Yes. We need to figure that out but this is not the time nor the
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-venue. We need to discuss this, with all stakeholders, prior to setting
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-the Q3 OKRs.
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-&lt;nduca&gt; Everyone should be there when we talk about it.
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-&lt;jchaffraix&gt; Moose is more than required, lets continue this discussion
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-offline and with all the relevant people.
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-\[ List markers not modifying layout tree during layout (in dev). \]
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-&lt;dsinclair&gt; Done!
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-&lt;eae&gt; Awesome!
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-&lt;dsinclair&gt; It's in beta even.
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-&lt;dsinclair&gt; Turns out it _just_ missed beta, it's in dev though.
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-&lt;eae&gt; That was the goal though, you're golden.
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-\[ Initial implementation of menu item not modifying layout tree during \]
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-\[ layout (in canary) \]
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-&lt;dsinclair&gt; Done, also in dev.
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-&lt;eae&gt; You're on fire! What are you going to do the rest of the quarter?
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-&lt;dsinclair&gt; Code reviews. Tons of code reviews.
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-\[ Have an experimental out-of-tree node measure API. \]
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-&lt;jchaffraix&gt; This is from before I left on vacation. We want to push it
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-out of the roster, not a priority any more. Gated on refactoring work.
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-&lt;jchaffraix&gt; We have a prototype and a design but stopped working on it
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-to focus on refactoring work.
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-&lt;eae&gt; So we decided to focus on the broader scope refactoring work
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-instead of the limited out-of-tree measure implementation?
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-&lt;jchaffraix&gt; Yes, there where also concerns about supporting the API in
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-the future given the narrow use cases for it. Not necessarily worth the
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-complexity.
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-&lt;eae&gt; Let's revisit this at the end of the quarter.
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-&lt;jchaffraix&gt; Ok.
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-\[ Update flexbox implementation to match latest version of \]
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-\[ specification \]
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-&lt;cbiesinger&gt; Some parts done, some parts to be done.
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-&lt;eae&gt; On track?
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-&lt;cbiesinger&gt; Should be possible to finish before EoQ.
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-&lt;ndcua&gt; Did we make any progress on debugging?
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-&lt;cbiesinger&gt; Haven't heard anything about it.
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-&lt;nduca&gt; Can you follow up, the new behavior is really hard to debug (for
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-web developers).
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-&lt;cbiesinger&gt; I'm not quite sure how to shove it into the inspector.
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-&lt;nduca&gt; Not super important but a nice side narrative and it might be a
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-fun project. Would be be great for users.
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-&lt;cbiesinger&gt; Agreed, not sure where to start though.
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-&lt;nduca&gt; Only if you want to. Entirely up to you. Work with dev tools
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-team and nudge them in right direction. No need to do any UI work.
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-&lt;cbiesinger&gt; I'll put it on my todo list to reach out to the dev-tools
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-team and expose the information.
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-\[ Improve CJK vertical text support \]
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-&lt;eae&gt; kojii isn't here which is understandable given that it's 2am in
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-Tokyo at the moment. I'll follow up with him this afternoon.
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-\[ Make complex text as fast as simple text \]
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-&lt;eae&gt; So this is on me. I have a plan and have started working on it.
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-Still think I'll be able to get the complex path to be at least as fast
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-as the simple one by the end of the quarter, will by close though.
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-Involves changing how we cache things are reducing repetitive and
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-redundant work.
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-\[ Remove the simple text code path \]
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-&lt;eae&gt; This is obviously gated on the previous goal of getting complex
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-text to be as fast as simple text. We're quickly running out of time
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-this quarter so this is at risk of slipping. We should be able to at
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-least have a flag to disable it but removing it entirely seems a bit
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-optimistic at this point.
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-\[ Build the plan to support updated Unicode Bidirectional Algorithm \]
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-&lt;eae&gt; Also on kojii, will fallow up online.
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-\[ Raise the “Passed” rate of CSS Writing Modes Level 3 to 85% \]
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-\[ including new tests. \]
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-&lt;eae&gt; Also on kojii, will fallow up online.
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-\[ Move line layout to LayoutUnit \]
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-&lt;szager&gt; Done!
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-&lt;eae&gt; Want to expand on that?
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-&lt;sazager&gt; No. It's in dev and so far it looks good.
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-&lt;eae&gt; Congratulations and well done!
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-\[ Finish root layer scrolling \]
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-&lt;skobes&gt; Making good progress, with sazager helping out it should be
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-possible to get pretty close to finish it this month.
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-&lt;eae&gt; Any new unforeseen problems? It's grown in scope quite a bit since
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-it started.
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-&lt;skobes&gt; Nothing too major, just a lot of work.
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-\[ Ensure that bugs get automatically filed for clusterfuzz asserts \]
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-&lt;cbiesinger&gt; Done.
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-&lt;eae&gt; Awesome.
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-Wrapping up
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------------------------
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-&lt;eae&gt; Looks like we're on track or even ahead of the curve for the
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-majority of our objectives. Well done everyone! Perhaps we need to have
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-a bit more ambitious goals for Q3?
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-&lt;eae&gt; Speaking of which, it would be great if everyone could start
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-thinking about what they want to do next and what you want to work on
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-for the next quarter or two.
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-&lt;eae&gt; We have a big list of our backlog and potential projects at
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-<https://www.chromium.org/blink/layout-team/potential-projects>, please
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-add projects and tasks you think are missing and see what you think we
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-should focus on next.
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-&lt;eae&gt; We'll have a Q3 planning discussion in a few weeks.
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-&lt;eae&gt; Any questions about our OKRs or concerns that we need to talk
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-about?
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-\* silence \*
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-&lt;eae&gt; Thanks everyone! \ No newline at end of file