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authorBruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>2001-06-04 20:28:21 +0000
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+From: Andrew Rawnsley <ronz@ravensfield.com>
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+To: Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
+Subject: Re: [GENERAL] Queries across multiple databases (was: SELECT from a table in another database).
+Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 17:37:25 -0400
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+On Tuesday 22 May 2001 12:37am, Bruce Momjian wrote:
+> Can you send me a little sample of SCHEMA use?
+
+Pardon if this is more long-winded or tangental than you are looking for...
+
+What may beconfusing many people (not excluding myself from time to time) is
+that cross-schema queries may have nothing to do with cross-database queries,
+which is an entirely different kettle of trout.... SCHEMAs as used by at
+least by Oracle and Sybase are nothing more than users/object owners (I have
+no experience with DB2 or Informix, or anything more exotic than that).
+
+Just off the top of my head, what would satisfy most people would be to be
+able to refer to objects as OWNER.OBJECT, with owner being 'within' the
+database (i.e. DATABASE.OWNER.OBJECT, which is how Sybase does it. Oracle has
+no 'database' parallel like that). Whether you do it Oracle-fashion and use
+the term SCHEMA for owner pretty universally or Sybase fashion and just pay
+lip service to the word doesn't really matter (unless there is a standards
+compliance issue).
+
+As to creating schemas...In Oracle you have to execute the CREATE SCHEMA
+AUTHORIZATION <user> while logged in as that user before you can add objects
+under that user's ownership. While it seems trivial, if you have a situation
+where you do not want to grant a user session rights, you have to grant them
+session rights, log in as them, execute CREATE SCHEMA..., then revoke the
+session rights. Bah. A table created by user X in schema Y is also owned by
+user Y, and its user Y that has to have many of the object rights to create
+that table.
+
+In Sybase, its essentially the same except the only real use for the CREATE
+SCHEMA command is for compliance and to group some DDL commands together.
+Other than that, Sybase always refers to schemas as owners. You don't have to
+execute CREATE SCHEMA... to create objects - you just need the rights. I've
+never used it at least - the only thing I see in it is eliminating the need
+to type 'go' after every DDL command.
+
+As for examples from Oracle space -
+
+Here is a foreign key reference with delete triggers from a table in
+schema/user PROJECT to tables in schemas/users SERVICES and WEBCAL:
+
+CREATE TABLE PROJECT.tasks_users (
+   event_id INTEGER REFERENCES WEBCAL.tasks(event_id) ON DELETE CASCADE,
+   user_id VARCHAR2(25) REFERENCES SERVICES.users(user_id) ON DELETE CASCADE,
+   confirmed CHAR(1),
+   PRIMARY KEY (event_id,user_id)
+);
+
+A join between tables in would be
+SELECT   A.SAMPLE_ID,
+                 A.CONCENTRATION,
+                 A.CASNO,
+                 B.PARAMETER,
+                 C.DESCRIPTION AS STYPE
+         FROM HAI.RESULTS A, SAMPLETRACK.PARAMETERS B,
+SAMPLETRACK.SAMPLE_TYPE C
+                 WHERE A.CASNO = B.CASNO AND A.SAMPLE_TYPE = B.SAMPLE_TYPE
+
+In both Oracle and Sybase, all the objects are in the same 'database'
+(instance in Oracle), as I assume they would be in Postgres. There is I
+assume a name space issue - one should be able to create a FOO.BAR and a
+BAR.BAR in the same database.
+
+> I may be adding it to
+> 7.2 inside the same code that maps temp table names to real tables.
+>
+
+Excellent! I see light at the end of the tunnel (I will say the Postgres
+maintainers are among the most solidly competent around - one never has any
+real doubts about the system's progress).
+
+--
+Regards,
+
+Andrew Rawnsley
+Ravensfield Digital Resource Group, Ltd.
+(740) 587-0114
+www.ravensfield.com
+